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  <title>Flags</title>
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  <updated>2026-07-26T06:37:21Z</updated>
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    <title>RE: Flags</title>
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      <name>richard white</name>
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    <updated>2025-07-08T09:14:58Z</updated>
    <published>2025-07-08T09:14:58Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Thank you Mark&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>richard white</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-07-08T09:14:58Z</dc:date>
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    <title>RE: Flags</title>
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      <name>Mark Lane</name>
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    <updated>2025-07-08T08:45:33Z</updated>
    <published>2025-07-08T08:45:33Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Flashback to Eric Pickles&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The 2012 amendment to the 2007 legislation might be of asistance in relation to Schedule 3&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/2372/regulation/2/made&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Mark Lane</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-07-08T08:45:33Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Flags</title>
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      <name>richard white</name>
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    <updated>2025-07-04T08:15:55Z</updated>
    <published>2025-07-04T08:08:36Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Feels like time that colleagues might be asked to advise (fearlessly and impartially) on some politically charged questions about 'flags' and based on &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/planning/401-planning-news/61481-flying-pride-flag-needs-advertising-consent-says-planning-authority-in-warwickshire-row"&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; perhaps time for some clearer guidance on the technical issues&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A couple of points and questions that seem immediately relevant to me (but were not answered) are:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Does the specific flag in question fall within the definition of advertisement in S336 TCPA. Despite what "&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/flying-flags-a-plain-english-guide/flying-flags-a-plain-english-guide"&gt;Flying flags: a plain English guide - GOV.UK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;"&amp;nbsp;says "I&lt;em&gt;n England, the flying of flags is treated as advertisements for the purposes of the planning regime to ensure the flags do not impact on safety or amenity&lt;/em&gt;." It is only in fact flags which are within the S336 definition of advertisement that are controlled at all.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The most often ignored clause in S336 is this: "in the nature of, and employed wholly or partly for the purposes of, advertisement, announcement or direction".&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If a particular flag crosses the S336 threshold:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Could the flag be exempt under Sched 1? (Not in this case, but I've seen other arguments about County flags, which are exempt)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Could the flag enjoy deemed consent under Sched 3? There seem to be several possible deemed consents (depending on the number and size of flags). One might argue for example&amp;nbsp;that the Public Sector Equality Duty (S149 Equality Act 2010) brings the display of Pride flags within 1A as a function of the authority. 3D applies to 'cultural events' etc Class 6 (forecourts) and class 7(flags on roofs) might all be relevant.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Overall, as planners we need to look beyond the plain English guide and the populist view that 'only Union Jacks and/or the cross of St George can be flown without planning permission'&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And don't get me started on whether the English/Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish flags are in fact withing the strict legal meaning of Sched 1 Class H - clearly they should be but does the drafting achieve this?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All reference to Schedules andClasses are to&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2007/783/contents/made"&gt;The Town and Country Planning (Control of Advertisements) (England) Regulations 200&lt;/a&gt;7)&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>richard white</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2025-07-04T08:08:36Z</dc:date>
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