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  <title>"In use" on a retrospective application.</title>
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  <subtitle>"In use" on a retrospective application.</subtitle>
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  <updated>2026-09-07T12:16:37Z</updated>
  <dc:date>2026-09-07T12:16:37Z</dc:date>
  <entry>
    <title>RE: "In use" on a retrospective application.</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Neal Gascoine</name>
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    <updated>2026-09-01T08:10:13Z</updated>
    <published>2026-09-01T08:10:13Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:12pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"&gt;Would the upstairs accommodation (avoided the word residential) count as in lawful use?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:12pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:12pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"&gt;You need to look at what the lawful use was prior to the change and how it was classified for planning and then if lawful is that use active.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:12pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:12pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"&gt;Is the accommodation the main use or is that the public house.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:12pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:12pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"&gt;Is the accommodation ancillary to the main use as a public house and as such not a principal use so it does not cause the building to qualify as an “in-use building”.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:12pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:12pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"&gt;Also, you will need to consider Krii and if the use of an area is a use that can be continued without further planning permission.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:12pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:12pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Aptos,sans-serif"&gt;Not really a definitive answer, but questions you need to consider when making that assessment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br&gt;
Cheers&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Neal&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Neal Gascoine</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-09-01T08:10:13Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>"In use" on a retrospective application.</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Stuart Cain</name>
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    <updated>2026-08-24T11:08:58Z</updated>
    <published>2026-08-24T11:08:57Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;We have a retrospective planning application approved for conversion of a pub with upstairs accommodation to flats.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As this happened in approximately 2021 the can't claim the pub area counts as in use as the lawful use obviously hasn't happened for 6 continuous months out of the last three years from the date of permission.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However that the upstairs accommodation was residential (all be it for the pub's owner) and has stayed residential does that mean it would count as in use?&amp;nbsp; Even though it was 1 apartment and is now 3 that area is being retained as residential and the flats have been occupied.&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Stuart Cain</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-08-24T11:08:57Z</dc:date>
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