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  <title>Cleud, no breach subsisting at time of application</title>
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  <subtitle>Cleud, no breach subsisting at time of application</subtitle>
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  <updated>2026-05-16T21:19:22Z</updated>
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    <title>Cleud, no breach subsisting at time of application</title>
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      <name>Mike Oakley</name>
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    <updated>2015-07-29T12:29:41Z</updated>
    <published>2015-07-29T12:29:41Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Hi,&lt;br /&gt;
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I am becoming increasingly concerned over the number of Certificates of Lawful Use that are being issued for a breach of condition&amp;nbsp;which is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;subsisting at the time of the application.&amp;nbsp;

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&lt;div dir="ltr"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ellis v Secretary of State for Communities &amp;amp; Local Government and Chiltern DC [2009] EWHC 634 (Admin)&lt;/strong&gt; makes it clear that a breach of condition has to be continuing at the time an application for a&amp;nbsp;Certificate is made. It appears however,&amp;nbsp;that a number of LPA's are not aware of this. Quite often I have come across cases where a Certificate is issued for a breach of an occupancy condition only to find&amp;nbsp;that the property was unoccupied on the date of the application, commonly due to the application being made by executors of a will whilst the property is going through Probate. Consequently, not only is the breach not subsisting at the time of the application but, as a consequence of the fact that probate can take an awfully long time, some breaches will most certainly be at an end.&lt;br /&gt;
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My biggest concern is what happens when at some point in the future the soundness of the Certificate is questioned by dint of its incorrect issuance?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Mike Oakley</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-07-29T12:29:41Z</dc:date>
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