Planning applicationsThis forum replaces the 'general discussions' forum on our old site. It is provided for general discussion on all matters relating to service improvement. Feel free to ask questions and share your ideas.https://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_category?p_l_id=53683759&mbCategoryId=62179402024-03-28T12:14:42Z2024-03-28T12:14:42ZRE: Householder planning application limitsT Simonhttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=9631513442024-01-14T14:19:03Z2024-01-14T14:19:03Z<p>Hi Moses, </p>
<p>Thank you for the response. Much appreciated. The application is <strong>232951</strong> under Wokingham council - https://planning.wokingham.gov.uk/FastWebPL/detail.asp?AltRef=232951&ApplicationNumber=232951&AddressPrefix=&Postcode=&KeywordSearch=&Submit=Search</p>
<p>Please note bulk of application is already approved under previous application <strong>231261</strong></p>
<p>Thanks a lot for your time. </p>T Simon2024-01-14T14:19:03ZRE: Householder planning application limitsMoses David Motzenhttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=9631337992024-01-14T12:58:04Z2024-01-14T12:58:04Z<p>Would you be willing to share the application ref Number, It will be easier to advise you. </p>Moses David Motzen2024-01-14T12:58:04ZHouseholder planning application limitsT Simonhttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=9623076282024-01-12T12:52:15Z2024-01-12T12:52:15Z<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I wonder if I could get some advice please. My LPA is not willing to consider my householder application for an extention under the 'householder' category, citing that the scale of demolitions of original walls is so much that it stops being an extention and that it needs to be considered under a 'full planning application' for full demolition and a new-build. </p>
<p>I find this puzzling as a large percentage of original walls infact has been retained. Is there any part of the law which can shed some light here, to define the limits of the application type '<i><b>The Householder Application for Planning Permission for Works or Extension to a Dwelling'? </b></i>Is there anything in law which defines the limits of what one can and cannot apply for with this type of application? <i></i></p>
<p>Many thanks for your time.</p>T Simon2024-01-12T12:52:15ZRE: Planning Applications: Statutory Press NoticesJohn Theobaldhttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=9337123582023-11-09T11:49:24Z2023-11-09T11:49:24Z<p>Hi,</p>
<p>We have very recently been told by our local paper that they will be increasing the font size of their press adverts because they say they aren't <span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif"><span style="color:black">legible at the current font size we generally use with them. We are obviosly tied by legislation to advertise certain applications in the local newspaper. This could increase our already several K pa spend on weekly or fortnightly press adverts. We have wittled the press advert down to the essential applications that have to be listed in the newspaper, however being an area of many listed buildings and conservations areas the list is still typically approx 50 at a time. Has anyone any suggestions to manage increases in local press advertising charges? As we know, legislation will not change on local press advertsing any time soon! Many thanks. Best regards, John</span></span></span></p>
<p> </p>John Theobald2023-11-09T11:49:24ZRE: Decision signing (last minute.com)Naomi Perryhttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=9327145242023-11-07T11:47:44Z2023-11-07T11:47:44Z<p>Good morning, </p>
<p>We have a internal 'rule' where senior officers, who carry their own large caseload, are given three days to check report/draft decisions. It is hard to stick to though when most are nearing the determination date! </p>Naomi Perry2023-11-07T11:47:44ZRE: Condition MonitoringAndy Englishhttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=9290514292023-10-30T11:12:47Z2023-10-30T11:12:47Z<p>Hi Ros,</p>
<p>Thank you for your reply. It's good to hear someone has a working procedure in place. </p>
<p>Is it possible to have an example of the spreadsheet you use? </p>
<p>We're looking to create some sort of database to try and help with monitoring, any information you have regarding the compliance would be greatly appreciated! </p>
<p>Many thanks for your time,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
<p>(andy.english@west-norfolk.gov.uk)</p>Andy English2023-10-30T11:12:47ZRE: Condition MonitoringRosalind Bentleyhttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=9290298252023-10-30T10:44:38Z2023-10-30T10:44:38Z<p>Hi Andy,</p>
<p>We have been pro-actively monitoring planning permissions/planning conditions for quite a few years, although we only monitor our strategic allocation sites and the some of the major applications</p>
<p>Initially we did set up new software screens and reports linked to our main planning system but in the end we found using RAG rated spreadsheets along with some system reports was a better way to organise the complex sites. Monitoring the DOC applications is relatively easily, its how to check for actual compliance that is a bit more tricky but more than happy to explain how we have tackled it.</p>
<p>Ros </p>
<p> </p>Rosalind Bentley2023-10-30T10:44:38ZCondition MonitoringAndy Englishhttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=9269339282023-10-25T14:32:40Z2023-10-25T14:32:40Z<p>Hi,</p>
<p>As a local council, we are looking to pro-actively monitor current planning applications with conditions that require discharging.</p>
<p>I'm reaching out to any other local councils who actively monitor planning conditions. All the threads I can find seem to be over 6 years old.</p>
<p>I'm interested to know how you go about the monitoring process? What processes you have in place to assist in identifying the trigger points eg pre commencement, pre occupation conditions. Is there any specific software you use or is it a case of just recording data in a spreadsheet?</p>
<p>Many Thanks,</p>
<p>Andy</p>Andy English2023-10-25T14:32:40ZRE: Decision signing (last minute.com)richard whitehttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=9246367952023-10-20T11:53:47Z2023-10-20T11:53:47Z<p>A big stick I once proposed (as a case officer) was to measure individual performance on "% passed for signing within 49 days" as opposed to "% determined within 56 days". No one else thought it was a good idea</p>richard white2023-10-20T11:53:47ZDecision signing (last minute.com)John Mawdsleyhttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=9240423232023-10-19T07:56:29Z2023-10-19T07:47:24Z<p>Hello all,</p>
<p>Does anyone have any 'best practice' in terms of decision signing? We are doing really well in terms of in time speed of decisions but we find quite a few decisions get sent in on day 56. We have an outlook decision signing box where decisions get sent in with a draft decision notice and a copy of the officers dele report. We are finding that decisions get sent in right on the last day, often in the afternoon, and this does not give senior officers enough time to sense check the decision etc. We have tried having a cut off of 1pm for signing, but still the problem remains. Officers work to day 56.</p>
<p>What good practice is out there? What works well for you? (other than having a big stick to stop last minute decisions!)</p>
<p>Many thanks <img alt="yes" height="23" src="https://khub.net/o/frontend-editor-ckeditor-web/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/thumbs_up.png" title="yes" width="23" /></p>
<p>John</p>John Mawdsley2023-10-19T07:47:24ZRE: Electricty Battery StorageCynthia Crawfordhttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=9230790932023-10-17T13:59:23Z2023-10-17T13:59:23Z<p>Thank you for the above notice 2017.</p>
<p>British Transport Police is seeking to procure Lithium battery storage 'safes'; to inlcude storage of mobile phone and escooter batteries.</p>
<p>Has anyone had experience of this more recently.</p>
<p>Kind regards </p>
<p>Cynthia Crawford</p>
<p>cynthia.crawford@btp.police.uk</p>
<p>07515 332 625</p>
<p> </p>Cynthia Crawford2023-10-17T13:59:23ZRE: 2-step approach demolishing front boundary wall > 1m in conservation arGlen Chttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=8741121072023-07-03T15:27:49Z2023-07-03T15:27:49Z<p>No A4D (relevant to the proposals)</p>Glen C2023-07-03T15:27:49ZRE: 2-step approach demolishing front boundary wall > 1m in conservation arB Qhttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=8741060982023-07-03T14:44:10Z2023-07-03T14:44:10Z<p>Was neither Class A Part 2 or Class C of Part 11 removed by the Article 4 direction for the Conservation area?</p>B Q2023-07-03T14:44:10ZRE: 2-step approach demolishing front boundary wall > 1m in conservation arGlen Chttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=8713896382023-06-27T14:26:54Z2023-06-27T14:26:54Z<p>tricky one to argue against, nomatter how "wrong" it seems. Even if there was intent, everything was done (or rather is being done) as two separate building operations.</p>Glen C2023-06-27T14:26:54ZRE: 2-step approach demolishing front boundary wall > 1m in conservation arrichard whitehttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=8713834382023-06-27T13:59:04Z2023-06-27T13:56:20Z<p>Glen, you're right, I muddled my directions.</p>
<p>Re your original question your hands are probably tied at this point aren't they?</p>
<p>Unless you fancy flying a kite and revoking the original LDC on the basis that relevant information was withheld (the intention to demolish the reduced wall) and this was material to the first LDC as with this information you might have held that the reduction in height was partial demolition, not an alteration, and therefore not PD?</p>
<p><a href="https://brodies.com/insights/planning-environment-and-climate/lets-be-honest-revocation-of-certificates-of-lawfulness/">https://brodies.com/insights/planning-environment-and-climate/lets-be-honest-revocation-of-certificates-of-lawfulness/</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.nortonrosefulbright.com/en-gb/knowledge/publications/9aa3dc77/conservation-areas-relevant-demolition-and-alteration">https://www.nortonrosefulbright.com/en-gb/knowledge/publications/9aa3dc77/conservation-areas-relevant-demolition-and-alteration</a></p>
<p>Although if the work has already been carried out I'm not sure what the revocation would mean in practice?</p>
<p> </p>richard white2023-06-27T13:56:20ZRE: 2-step approach demolishing front boundary wall > 1m in conservation arGlen Chttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=8712622762023-06-27T09:32:10Z2023-06-27T09:32:10Z<p>Hi Richard,</p>
<p>If I'm not mistaken, I think the link you provided merely confirms that the demolition of any wall/gate/fence in a CA is development (which is indeed the case here).</p>
<p>However, if you look at this Direction:</p>
<p>https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/415853/150316_Final_Conservation_Areas_Direction.pdf</p>
<p>Section 4(b) states that the demolition of "any gate, wall, fence or means of enclosure which is less than one metre high which abuts on a highway (including a public footpath or bridleway), waterway or open space, or less than two metres high in any other case;" whilst development, is not classified as "relevant demolition". Therefore, it could be demolished under Class C...</p>
<p>no?</p>Glen C2023-06-27T09:32:10ZRE: 2-step approach demolishing front boundary wall > 1m in conservation arrichard whitehttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=8712516942023-06-27T08:40:05Z2023-06-27T08:40:05Z<p>Hi Glen</p>
<p>have I missed something?</p>
<p>My reading of GPDO Part 11 Class C leads me to "Development is not permitted by Class C if the demolition is “relevant demolition” for the purposes of section 196D of the Act (demolition of an unlisted etc building in a conservation area)" which leads in turn to S75 of the LB&CA Act, which leads in turn to <a href="https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/979413/Demolition_Direction_2021.pdf">https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/979413/Demolition_Direction_2021.pdf</a> which seems to include the demolition of the whole of any wall in a CA in 'relevant demolition' and therefore excludes it from Class C.</p>
<p>At the risk of exposing my lack of knowledge, I'm not seeing the 0.9M threshold you describe...</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>richard white2023-06-27T08:40:05Z2-step approach demolishing front boundary wall > 1m in conservation areaGlen Chttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=8709882712023-06-26T18:16:24Z2023-06-26T18:16:23Z<p><u>Two-step approach demolishing a front boundary wall taller than 1m in conservation area</u></p>
<p>An applicant was granted a LDC to alter a front boudnary wall, reducing its height from 1.2 metres to 0.9 metres (granted under Class A, Part 2).</p>
<p>The applicant then carried out the works as per LDC.</p>
<p>The applicant has now applied for an LDC to demolish the 0.9m boudary wall, on the basis that it would be PD under Class C of Part 11 (as the demolotion of a 0.9m tall wall, as opposed to a wall >1m, does not constitute "relevant demolition".</p>
<p>I feel that the applicant has taken this "two-step" approach with the ulterior motive to demolish a 1.2m front boudnary wall, which would not been possible as a single building operation.</p>
<p>Does the LDC need to be approved?</p>
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</table>Hans Bray2023-05-22T14:53:00ZRE: Active Travel England ConsultationAdam Raltonhttps://khub.net/c/message_boards/find_message?p_l_id=53683759&messageId=8549795902023-05-22T13:17:46Z2023-05-22T13:17:46Z<p>I emailed ATE last week because of the lack of information on their website. They confirmed today that planning consultations need to go to <span style="font-size:11.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><a href="mailto:Planning-Consultations@activetravelengland.gov.uk" style="color:#0563c1; text-decoration:underline"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Planning-Consultations@activetravelengland.gov.uk</span></span></a></span></span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">.. They also said that they emailed us on 16 May with the info...i fear they are working off an out of date email list for LPAs as their email didnt get to the right place here, so its probably worth you contacting them to check the contact info they have.</span></span></p>Adam Ralton2023-05-22T13:17:46Z