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  <title>Varying a plans condition on outline permission to increase red edge?</title>
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  <subtitle>Varying a plans condition on outline permission to increase red edge?</subtitle>
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  <updated>2026-07-27T07:10:11Z</updated>
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    <title>Varying a plans condition on outline permission to increase red edge?</title>
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      <name>Former Member</name>
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    <updated>2014-07-07T17:14:07Z</updated>
    <published>2014-07-07T17:14:07Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt; I concur. The planning unit is defined by the red line and as such an application outside the red line, or extends beyond it cannot surely be the same planning unit.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; If the red line were to be changes by an insignificant amount, i would consider allowing a free go on the fees. Though if the fee was based on Ha and that increased, i think it would be stretching a point to breaking to allow that as a free go...&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; Willing to be challenged...&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; Phill&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-07-07T17:14:07Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Varying a plans condition on outline permission to increase red edge?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Chris Nash</name>
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    <updated>2014-06-24T23:45:56Z</updated>
    <published>2014-06-24T23:45:56Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt; Conditions are varied under Section 73. Section 73(1) states "This section applies... to applications for planning permission for the development of land without complying with conditions subject to which a previous planning permission was granted". There is therefore a relationship between the land concerned and the conditions imposed. Beyond the land to which the host permission relates, the conditions cannot apply. I therefore cannot see how you could apply to vary a condition which has no legal effect on the additional piece of land concerned (i.e. it does not "exist" in respect of that land).&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Chris Nash</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-06-24T23:45:56Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Varying a plans condition on outline permission to increase red edge?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Former Member</name>
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    <updated>2014-06-18T18:38:56Z</updated>
    <published>2014-06-18T18:38:56Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt; Yay or nay - applicants can apply to vary a plans condition on an outline approval that increases the site area and therefore the size of development.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; If nay - where say it in legal speak?&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; Thanks,&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt; Michelle&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-06-18T18:38:56Z</dc:date>
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