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  <title>Use Classes in 2020</title>
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  <subtitle>A discussion group for the changes arising from the new class 'E'</subtitle>
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  <updated>2026-08-12T14:30:49Z</updated>
  <dc:date>2026-08-12T14:30:49Z</dc:date>
  <entry>
    <title>Examples of how changes to Use Class Order have impacted high streets</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Georgina Brightwell</name>
    </author>
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    <updated>2023-03-23T17:26:57Z</updated>
    <published>2023-03-23T17:26:56Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,sans-serif"&gt;Hi all,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,sans-serif"&gt;The LGA remain concerned that changes to the Use Class Order (&lt;span style="font-size:11pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;em&gt;consolidation of previous uses (Classes A1/2/3, B1, D1(a-b) and ‘indoor sport’ from D2(e)) into new Use Class E – Commercial Business and Service&lt;/em&gt;), as well as the introduction of conversions from Use Class E to C3 (&lt;em&gt;Dwellinghouses&lt;/em&gt;)&amp;nbsp;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,sans-serif"&gt;may impact a local authority’s ability to plan for their high streets and town centres now and into the future.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,sans-serif"&gt;The changes are still relatively new, but&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,sans-serif"&gt;if there are&amp;nbsp;any relevant examples from your local authority where a&amp;nbsp;scheme, permitted by the changes in Use Class Order or a conversion&amp;nbsp;from E to C3 has impacted a town centre/high street we would be grateful if you could share your experience.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:11pt"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:&amp;quot;Arial&amp;quot;,sans-serif"&gt;Thanks, Georgina&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Georgina Brightwell</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-03-23T17:26:56Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Class E to C3 and Article 4s - What are people considering?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>paul lewin</name>
    </author>
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    <updated>2021-05-05T08:15:10Z</updated>
    <published>2021-05-05T06:46:10Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Like many LPAs we'll need to consider whether to introduce Article 4s
  for E to C3.  We have two Article 4s currently that remove PD for
  change of use of office to residential.  These will benefit from the
  extension in the regulations to end of July 2022 which gives the
  potential to do a non-immediate to cover some or possibly all of their
  existing scope.  Existing Article 4s were done initially for all our
  designated industrial areas and Wembley growth area (covers town
  centres), we added a later one for the remainder of the borough.  We
  also did one for B8 and B1c to C3 in designated industrial areas
  whilst those temporary rights were in place.  We have a need to
  provide additional industrial space to meet needs, but no additional
  land on which to provide it, so have to intensify its existing use. 
  In light of the draft NPPF consultation text on Article 4s (national
  importance/ keeping to minimum geographical area, etc) and the SoS's
  words when introduced the permitted development rights are there any
  thoughts on the prospect of likely success of introducing Article 4s
  for E to C3?  Clearly the range of uses within E is wide with
  implications for the ability to positively plan for town centres,
  meeting industrial and employment needs and residents' access to local
  facilities.  To replace our existing Article 4 we have a choice of
  whether to focus on office only, some additional parts, e.g. light
  industrial and research and development or all class E.  Limiting the
  scope to parts of E and area to designated industrial areas reduces
  risk of SoS direction, but can be got around by moving to another use
  in E to allow the permitted development right.  There is also the
  issue of other existing E class uses currently in industrial areas. 
  It would also leave significant amounts of stock elsewhere potentially vulnerable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also in terms of protecting town centres through to possibly local
  retail parades, given that the SoS should have taken account of
  responses from such agencies as the BPF who had concerns about ground
  floor residential impacting town centres how realistic is it to expect
  the SoS to not intervene in Article 4s being made for these locations
  which clearly in most cases are unlikely to be of national
  importance?  We have positive policies to allow residential in
  secondary frontage and peripheral locations in town centre
  frontages and local parades where it meets a number of tests, e.g.
  unviable, reasonable alternatives close by, etc. so are not against
  units becoming residential, but just want it to be done in a planned manner....&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are mixed messages from Government on Article 4s - draft NPPF
  Vs opportunity for LPAs to revisit the existing B1a to C3 prior to
  August 2022.  Although different areas will want different solutions
  it would just be interesting to get thoughts on the scope of what
  others are thinking of doing....&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>paul lewin</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-05-05T06:46:10Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Village Hall Planning Permission Extension</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Former Member</name>
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    <updated>2021-02-24T10:21:43Z</updated>
    <published>2021-02-23T20:59:33Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Hi All,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We are a Village Hall who had planning permission granted for a small
  kitchen extension in 2018. We are conscious that we are supposed to
  have commenced development within three years for the permission to
  remain valid. Before we approach the LPA, I wondered if there was any
  national direction that, given limitations on community buildings to
  run fundraising events etc due to COVID, that allowed extension of the
  three year limitation? Or just a general feel for how other LPAs were
  managing this? Is the general expectation that we would have to
  resubmit as usual?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any thoughts appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Former Member</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2021-02-23T20:59:33Z</dc:date>
  </entry>
  <entry>
    <title>Use Class Amendments - First Views / Impressions?</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Martin Hutchings</name>
    </author>
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    <updated>2020-08-04T08:43:54Z</updated>
    <published>2020-08-03T10:48:44Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 11.0px;"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p style="margin-bottom: 11.0px;"&gt;We've begun talking to councils to
  assess the impact of the amended &lt;a
    href="https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/757/contents/made"&gt;Use
    Class Order&lt;/a&gt; (made 20 July, in force 1st Sept). There are broadly
  2 camps:                                          &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;1) Those actively considering the impact&lt;/strong&gt; on Policy
  issues (e.g. Allocations for types of Use, Town Centre Policy
  predicated on uses, Town Vs Out of Town policy) and Development
  Management issues (transitional issues, withdrawn applications, income
  down / work up).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
  &lt;strong&gt;2) Those waiting to consider the impact&lt;/strong&gt; - until the
  government makes its policy announcement to consider everything together.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What camp are you in? How do you think it is going to affect:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Plan making? Development management? CIL ? Appeals?  What else?!
  Thoughts here please...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS (Thanks Rachel Almond for your post - we've created a new category).&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Martin Hutchings</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-08-03T10:48:44Z</dc:date>
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