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Google Earth & Proposals Maps...and other data sets

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Google Earth and proposals maps

Anyone else see this article in the Guardian ? http://society.guardian.co.uk/e-public/story/0,,1982067,00.html It provoked some discussion with our GIS people. As a trial, we decided to see whether we could get our UDP into google earth. At Lambeth, we’ve never displayed spatial info to the public. I’ve heard that there are issues of bandwidth and the overhead it would take to explain to the public what it was and how to use it. Using GE would mean that we would just make the .kmz files available and people could help themselves. We’re at the earliest stage, but I thought I’d post here to share our excitement and to see if anyone else is thinking along the same lines. Here are some notes : Our corporate GI store is Arc SDE. There is a product that converts from SDE to GE : “Arc2Earth” http://www.arc2earth.com/ As it says on the website “Convert & Publish your ArcGIS data to Google Earth with the click of a button. Cool”. There are two versions, standard @ $99 or professional @ $299. Both available on 7-day trial. We downloaded the trial and used it for a day to produce the attached. It is our UDP proposals map. You need google earth to view. 1. Google earth doesn’t work well on our corporate network. The data streaming is too slow. Fine at home on DSL. 2. We need to purchase two licenses : a. arc2earth professional at ~£160 one-ff b. googleearth pro at ~£300 license pa [for putting together presentations for Planning committee and site specific “flybys”] 3. The dataset is definitely “test”. The table of contents is OK, but the layers could be grouped better. There are issues with transparency and displaying areas covered by multiple layers. 4. You don’t seem to be able to right-click a layer and ask “what’s this?”. THIS MAY BE A KILLER PROBLEM. There is the option of finding the “point” that defines a polygon and attaching info to it. Not ideal – it would mean chopping large polygons into smaller ones. On the upside … 5. It integrates into the Arcmap client. Really easy to use. Any changes / improvements are made once in the corporate data store rather than there being a process of “cleaning up” data each time you want to GE it. 6. Linking the UDP and other corporate data (crime, regeneration proposals, traffic etc) is childishly easy. 7. The “tour” function allows people to fly over the borough. A really powerful presentation tool. 8. We have proved that you can embed URL information in a spatial layer. This is preserved into GE so people can click the “show me the details of this policy” and read the text from our website. Or (sexier) you can embed a whole page of information against a point. 9. Spatial consultation – it allows people to amend the boundaries of conservation areas and return them to us. 10. Free from other implementation costs. While it’s a pain not having road names, it means we don’t have any issues with post office, ordnance survey or bandwidth We are a literally a few hours into this. Anyone else further down the track ? If nothing else, if you haven’t played with GE before you really need to. There are some demos on the GE home page that show how it could be used to demonstrate what buildings look like in context. Rich
Former Member, modifié il y a 17 années.

Google Earth and Proposals Maps

You are absolutely right that the potential is huge - and well worth investigating for LDF purposes. In terms of routine purposes such as development control, Live.local is generally of more use and much better image quality than Google. Windows live.local will provide a vertical image, or an oblique from north, south, east or west of any location - they are scalable, and images are invariably no more than a few weeks or month old. Any chosen image can be captured using a screen dump; opened in a Word ducument; cropped down to the specific site of interest; and then scaled up - all using the Windows Picture bar. An image can then be used in any Word document. At the moment it dosen't cost anything - although I suspect that will not last.
Former Member, modifié il y a 17 années.

Google Earth & Proposals Maps...and other data sets

I've been working with Oldham MBC on their UDP proposals maps using Cadcorp SIS GIS. It has the functionality to export to KML amongst a great number of other formats and we have tried this - it works a treat but doesn't allow users to drill down into the policies. We are going for an approach to link the designations using the GeognoSIS web GIS to Plantech's ACOLAID back office system to meet the PDG requirements. Also of interest, Cadcorp support the MIDAS format used with the Listed Buildings data supplied by English Heritage in XML. Within 30 seconds all our LB data was spatially enabled! Whilst we already had this data polygonised, it was useful to cross check and cleanse the data. This data could also be saved as a KML file... Oh what fun!
Former Member, modifié il y a 17 années.

Google Earth and Proposals Maps

Ironically have just been discussing using Google Earth for on-line display of proposals maps for two adjoining local authorities where I am just taking over responsibility for project managing their LDFs, and previously design the Lambeth Proposals Map (by the way if you need it readied for publication and economically printed...) A Google Maps 'Mashup' is definitely the way to go. I have not seen a propriatory on-line application that is 1/10th as quick and the advantages of a proper 'web app' is that it can link to so much else. The next version (9.3) of Arcgis will export to KML format natively and Mapinfo 8.5 and Cadcorp can do so now. Dont expect layering to be anything like as good as on a PDF. For perfect clarity offer a PDF alternative - rember Acrobat 8.0 and later can dsiplay laters turned on and off lust like arcgis. You can click a layer and ask 'whats this' or create hyperlinks - BUT - it requires some javascript - See the Addiosn and Widerley book @developing Google Maps applications. I was thinking of getting my underemployed Brother in law programmer on to this big commercial opportunity - hes a brilliant programmer but cant get a job in th us as now all progamming jobs are only open to american citizens. The other big advantage of Google Maps is the ability to import 3D sketch up models - most especially the CASE 3d map of London. By importaning KML maps to Sketup pro - and adding developers CAD data - you can then also export to software such as ECOtech - whilch allows you to do anyalis of daylight and sunlight levels, passive solar gain etc. Andrew Lainton