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  <title>Change of red line prior to determination</title>
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  <subtitle>Change of red line prior to determination</subtitle>
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  <updated>2026-07-26T08:49:50Z</updated>
  <dc:date>2026-07-26T08:49:50Z</dc:date>
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    <title>RE: Change of red line prior to determination</title>
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    <author>
      <name>A. Thomas</name>
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    <updated>2024-04-20T16:31:14Z</updated>
    <published>2024-04-20T16:31:14Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;We're not even in a town&amp;nbsp;centre. We're quite rural. GP is more than 2 km away. Poor public transport. So most people rely on a car.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'm just surprised they can just change the red line boundary to now include parking pre determination. The agent and applicant are both council departments, so I guess they can do what they like.&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>A. Thomas</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-04-20T16:31:14Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>RE: Change of red line prior to determination</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Ted Slevin</name>
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    <updated>2024-04-20T08:31:19Z</updated>
    <published>2024-04-20T08:31:19Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;Loss of car parking spaces is a constant blight for town centres&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;in wales Blaenau Ffestiniog for example overnight parking has dropped by nearly half over the last 20years&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;so much so that local b and b are now recommending that guests park in a unused market hall on the edge of the town some 800 yards from some properties&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;what will happen when the market hall finds a use is anyone's guess a listed building by the way&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;a recent planing application which was turned down calculated because the hall was within 100 m of a buss stop and 600 m from a railway station that 5 car parking places was addiquate&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;this is nonsense and detracts from the well-being of residence which is after all the aim of planning&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;any development such as the one discribed should include parking&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even if this means making a ground floor all parking and one per apartment please&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;More shops and cafes in Blaensu have closed recently and parking is accepted as a serious contributer&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;more annoying car parking in Blaenau has diminished due to grant money being spent on "art"&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Some city centre flats in Manchester are now selling for £200,000 more if they have a parking space&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;planners should stop following silly rules based decisions and think about the consequences of their actions&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>Ted Slevin</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-04-20T08:31:19Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Change of red line prior to determination</title>
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      <name>A. Thomas</name>
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    <updated>2024-04-20T06:58:21Z</updated>
    <published>2024-04-20T06:56:25Z</published>
    <summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Our local authority in Wales filed a planning application to turn a Resource Centre into flats and a house. The red line was drawn around this Centre/gardens.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On a the location plan it was noted that the nearby 8 parking spaces were associated with this resource centre.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, I found mention on previous Planning Applications with regards to this same centre that the centre never had control over these parking spaces.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I mentioned this in my objection in which I also stated that parking is oversubscribed as it is, and a potential extra 9 vehicles may cause future problems.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Council have now amended the red line boundary&amp;nbsp;to include these 8 car parking spaces and a reconsultation has started. They won't tell me why, but I suspect they want to claim these spaces solely for the new development.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Can they do this, when historically these parking spaces have been used by shop visitors, existing residents, play area visitors etc. on a first-come basis?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For extra info: The Resource centre was developed from flats/house about 20 years ago. So basically the Council want to turn it back into flats/house. A year since the resource centre came into being, the parking was reduced from about 20 spaces to 8.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would really appreciate your insight. Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</summary>
    <dc:creator>A. Thomas</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-04-20T06:56:25Z</dc:date>
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