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Seeking correct definition of 'community organisation'

Former Member, modified 12 Years ago.

Seeking correct definition of 'community organisation'

I am investigating the possibility of setting up a "community organisation". However, I have found a conflict in the definition between the Localism Act 2011 SCHEDULE 4C and 2012 No. 637 TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING, ENGLAND The Neighbourhood Planning (General) Regulations 2012. As an example the former implies that members of a "community organisation" can profit by their membership whereas the latter suggests otherwise. Which is correct ? Thanks in advance to anybody who can help with this. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In Localism Act 2011 SCHEDULE 4C Community right to build orders 61Q - Meaning of “community organisation" http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2011/20/pdfs/ukpga_20110020_en.pdf 3(1)For the purposes of this Schedule a “community organisation” is a body corporate— (a)which is established for the express purpose of furthering the social, economic and environmental well-being of individuals living, or wanting to live, in a particular area, and (b)which meets such other conditions in relation to its establishment or constitution as may be prescribed. (2)Regulations under sub-paragraph (1)(b) may make provision in relation to— (a)the distribution of profits made by the body to its members, (b)the distribution of the assets of the body (in the event of its winding up or in any other circumstances), (c)the membership of the body, and (d)the control of the body (whether by the exercise of voting rights or otherwise). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2012 No. 637 TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING, ENGLAND The Neighbourhood Planning (General) Regulations 2012 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/637/pdfs/uksi_20120637_en.pdf PART 4 Community right to build organisations Prescribed conditions for community right to build organisations 13.—(1) For the purposes of paragraph 3(1)(b) of Schedule 4C to the 1990 Act, the following additional conditions are prescribed for any community organisation which is not a parish council— (a) individuals who live or work in the particular area for which the community organisation is established (“the particular area”) must be entitled to become voting members of the community organisation (whether or not others can also become voting members); and (b) the constitution of the community organisation must— (i) provide that taken together the individuals who live in the particular area— (aa) hold the majority of the voting rights; and (bb) have the majority on the board of directors or governing body, of the community organisation; (ii) include a statement— (aa) that the community organisation will carry on its activities for the benefit of the community in the particular area or a section of it; and (bb) indicating how it is proposed the community organisation’s activities will benefit the community in the particular area (or a section of it); (iii) provide that any assets of the community organisation may not be disposed of, improved or developed except in a manner which the community organisation consider benefits the community in the particular area or a section of it; and (iv) provide that any profits from its activities may only be used to benefit the community in the particular area or a section of it (the payment of profits directly to members or directors is not to be considered a benefit to the community in the particular area or a section of it); (v) provide that in the event of the winding up of the community organisation or in any other circumstances where the community organisation ceases to exist, its assets must be transferred to another body corporate which has similar objectives; and (vi) provide that the organisation has at least 10 members, living in different dwellings to each other, who live in the particular area. (2) For the purposes of this regulation, “dwelling” has the meaning given in section 3 of the Local Government Finance Act 1992(a) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Former Member, modified 12 Years ago.

Re: Seeking correct definition of 'community organisation'

To those helping me with a reply to my previous post you might find the following URLs easier to follow rather than having to look through the above .pdfs Localism Act 2011 - SCHEDULE 11 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2011/20/schedule/11 The Neighbourhood Planning (General) Regulations 2012 - 637 PART 4 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/637/part/4/made
Former Member, modified 12 Years ago.

Re: Seeking correct definition of 'community organisation'

Ian On my quick reading of the above, s1(b) of the Schedule 4C to the Act gives a broad power to 'prescribe' (make) regulations. s3(2) of the Act then states that the "Regulations...may make provision in relation to....(a)the distribution of profits made by the body to its members". Firstly, the regulations 'may' make, rather than 'must' make provision regarding profits. Secondly, the wording of the Act doesn't suggest that such a provision cannot be preventative (i.e. that there shall be no distribution to members). With the above in mind, it is my view that it is the regulations that you must follow on this. Just my thoughts. Kind regards David
Former Member, modified 12 Years ago.

Re: Seeking correct definition of 'community organisation'

Hi David Many thanks for your reply. Much appreciated. Perhaps I should have not focused on just one in issue in my post given there are several conflicts between Localism Act 2011 SCHEDULE 4C and 2012 No. 637 TOWN AND COUNTRY PLANNING, ENGLAND The Neighbourhood Planning (General) Regulations 2012 in the definition of 'community organisation'. It's as if the Act and the Regulations have been prepared in isolation by two completely different teams of civil servants. Kind Regards Ian Jones http://gplus.to/iancjones